Meet Tyler Durden
Y’all remember Shawn? He’s been MIA for some time because he’s finishing his screenplay (did you know that he writes scripts with the likes of the Shrek team...We have a regular celebrity cruising this place). Shawn’s been fixating on his work and I do appreciate that he still comes here and reads…
In an email he sent me this morning, he wrote: PS -- I do, however, have one question: When a woman lists "protection" as a prime attraction attribute she looks for in a man, what the heck does that mean? Protection from what? Wind? Rain? Roving packs of dingos? Great White sharks? Bonks on the head? Do women really feel so unsafe they prize a bodyguard above all else?
…so am going to answer the above as today’s blog entry…
And for the record, everything I am about to write is about me and should not serve as a generalisation re women. It is merely my personal perspective on how I relate to men and the kind of man I want in my life. Other women can speak for themselves…
It’s not that I feel unsafe (at least not here in North America where I don’t have to worry about rape as genocide and my man murdered due to his chosen religion) or actually need protection. It’s more that I want to make certain the man I’m with would – should the occasion arise – be capable of protecting me (most notably: physically).
This doesn’t mean I can’t protect myself, but it does mean that I believe he would afford better physical protection (perhaps even better social protection, but that is an extremely different dynamic & conversation which I can’t cover right now). Ultimately, I don’t want to throw down with anyone except the punching bag in the gym…but I like me a fearless, fierce & aggressive man.
In return, there are things which he could find inside himself (to a degree), but are better received from me. For me equality does not mean ‘sameness’, but rather, recognition that the differences inherent in both must be equally valued and revered. Within this discussion is a greater feminist argument to be made and for which I don’t have the patience this morning (and for the record, I don’t believe that a woman’s ability to bare her breasts on Girls Gone Wild is a measure of a progressive feminist movement. That measure comes in the form of: Women in office, the right to equal pay & education, etc.) .
The best way to explain this is to reference two of my favourite movies, the one I consider the quintessential chick flick: Fight Club, and Gladiator. The former rips in to the whole notion that men live in gyms and sculpt their bodies for the aesthetic (read: Mr. Universe) rather than out of necessity (read: war & hunting). In the later, Russell’s character embodies all of the characteristics I look for in a man (especially the short skirt).
But we don’t live in the age of Maximus, and so I find that I lean toward the aggression of Tyler (who > had he lived in the time of Maximus, would have been a less romantic version of…).
Tyler Durden is the anti-Metrosexual. I thought I used to dig the Metrosexual, until I was placed in some situations where the Metrosexual turned into the Superpansy. The Tyler Durdens of this world are primal and aggressive and they bleed and they don’t manicure their god damn nails. When faced with challenge and fear, they’re anything but scared…which, I think, is a rare quality in 2006.
As an aside and beyond the above, let me get to the nitty gritty of Tyler Durden. As basic instinct dictates, Tyler seems to possess both incarnations that meet my off-the-top-of-my-head needs of swaggering rightfully-cocky sex-bomb:

& raging animal:

(& remember: I think Brad Pitt’s kind’a ugly.) On a personal note, I’ve only ever met two men who fit the above profile(s). They are the archetypical alpha males and always, there is an aggression that sits right beneath the surface and in to which they could tap (and both have) should they need to.
Many women like the soft-spoken drunken and tortured poet (someone I got over when I was 22). I prefer the guy that’s spitting blood and with knuckles ripped…defying and challenging anything that stands between him & what he wants. (& I don't mean this in the Bushian way...but rather, with principles that match my own. And if I'm what's on the other side of that challenge and he's spitting blood in order to get to me, my heart's already racing and I'm already short of breath...)
Wow. I probably have a lot of daddy issues.
In an email he sent me this morning, he wrote: PS -- I do, however, have one question: When a woman lists "protection" as a prime attraction attribute she looks for in a man, what the heck does that mean? Protection from what? Wind? Rain? Roving packs of dingos? Great White sharks? Bonks on the head? Do women really feel so unsafe they prize a bodyguard above all else?
…so am going to answer the above as today’s blog entry…
And for the record, everything I am about to write is about me and should not serve as a generalisation re women. It is merely my personal perspective on how I relate to men and the kind of man I want in my life. Other women can speak for themselves…
It’s not that I feel unsafe (at least not here in North America where I don’t have to worry about rape as genocide and my man murdered due to his chosen religion) or actually need protection. It’s more that I want to make certain the man I’m with would – should the occasion arise – be capable of protecting me (most notably: physically).
This doesn’t mean I can’t protect myself, but it does mean that I believe he would afford better physical protection (perhaps even better social protection, but that is an extremely different dynamic & conversation which I can’t cover right now). Ultimately, I don’t want to throw down with anyone except the punching bag in the gym…but I like me a fearless, fierce & aggressive man.
In return, there are things which he could find inside himself (to a degree), but are better received from me. For me equality does not mean ‘sameness’, but rather, recognition that the differences inherent in both must be equally valued and revered. Within this discussion is a greater feminist argument to be made and for which I don’t have the patience this morning (and for the record, I don’t believe that a woman’s ability to bare her breasts on Girls Gone Wild is a measure of a progressive feminist movement. That measure comes in the form of: Women in office, the right to equal pay & education, etc.) .
The best way to explain this is to reference two of my favourite movies, the one I consider the quintessential chick flick: Fight Club, and Gladiator. The former rips in to the whole notion that men live in gyms and sculpt their bodies for the aesthetic (read: Mr. Universe) rather than out of necessity (read: war & hunting). In the later, Russell’s character embodies all of the characteristics I look for in a man (especially the short skirt).
But we don’t live in the age of Maximus, and so I find that I lean toward the aggression of Tyler (who > had he lived in the time of Maximus, would have been a less romantic version of…).
Tyler Durden is the anti-Metrosexual. I thought I used to dig the Metrosexual, until I was placed in some situations where the Metrosexual turned into the Superpansy. The Tyler Durdens of this world are primal and aggressive and they bleed and they don’t manicure their god damn nails. When faced with challenge and fear, they’re anything but scared…which, I think, is a rare quality in 2006.
As an aside and beyond the above, let me get to the nitty gritty of Tyler Durden. As basic instinct dictates, Tyler seems to possess both incarnations that meet my off-the-top-of-my-head needs of swaggering rightfully-cocky sex-bomb:

& raging animal:

(& remember: I think Brad Pitt’s kind’a ugly.) On a personal note, I’ve only ever met two men who fit the above profile(s). They are the archetypical alpha males and always, there is an aggression that sits right beneath the surface and in to which they could tap (and both have) should they need to.
Many women like the soft-spoken drunken and tortured poet (someone I got over when I was 22). I prefer the guy that’s spitting blood and with knuckles ripped…defying and challenging anything that stands between him & what he wants. (& I don't mean this in the Bushian way...but rather, with principles that match my own. And if I'm what's on the other side of that challenge and he's spitting blood in order to get to me, my heart's already racing and I'm already short of breath...)
Wow. I probably have a lot of daddy issues.
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I want to lick that blood of Brad's chest. I agree wiht u Maha theres something sexy and base instintxc about tylor duredn.
Can i copy that picute or does this use bandwidth?
T
I visit your blog on a regualar basis because I think it's hilarious. I've never commented but I sent you emails over the last year. I don't have a blog of my own and I don't want to hide this in your Inbox, so I want to say that that photo of Brad bleeding and looking angry makes me wet.
Thanks for the great blogging.
Maria
I, too, would feel comforted knowing my man would jump between me and a pack of dingos and yell "Bring it on!"...not that I've seen any dingos in Toronto, but Mleh...
I think 'protector' to me means being a haven...a place where we can lick our wounds and rest awhile knowing we're safe from the dingos until we're reading to face the dogs again.
It’s kind of like I thought. When women say they are attracted to the “protector” type, they’re talking about the alpha male type. The lone wolf -- one fang gnawing on the bleached-white bones of his enemies, the other gently cracking open a can of apple juice for his lovely. It’s been my experience that the stronger, more intelligent, more secure the woman, the more vulnerable, more “female”, she wishes to feel next to her man. It’s an internal, not external stipulation. Once again underlying those heart-warming truths found in that seminal record of women’s fantasy lives, “The Perfumed Garden”.
On a deeper level, this touches on all those fascinating and controversial issues of submission and domination between the sexes. At least when it comes to the bedroom. Stuff we don’t normally talk about in public, but have a fucking great time with in private. Usually. Succinctly put: Women like a man who makes them feel like a woman. A prize they’ve fought for. A treasure they’ve shed blood for. A gift they’d howl and claw and bite to protect from all those other lone wolves on the prowl. Taking time off now and then to claim the spoils, naturally. Relationships have such wonderful blood and guts and bones at their heart. Once you get past the infantilization of all things sexual in our mass media, your typical emasculating Cosmo advice (What your man “really” wants in bed!”) and -- cripes it make me shudder in my pj’s -- constant barrage of Oprah-esque antisepsis (Please leave your balls on the nightstand and slip this on. Here’s a flower.). Makes life exciting, no? We are not special snowflakes. We are hot-blooded beings of instinct-grounded intellect and intense passions. Cool.
I'll sleep better tonight.
and now you know why I (heart) rugby :D
T -- I don't know anything about bandwidth, so take away...should anything happen I'll let you know :)
Maria -- Thanks for posting. Well. So. Re your "situation". Thanks for putting yourself out there and takin' one for the team. Those of us who aren't so bold thank you for your honesty.
Lisa-- You wrote: "I think 'protector' to me means being a haven...a place where we can lick our wounds and rest awhile knowing we're safe from the dingos until we're reading to face the dogs again."
Yeah, that too. And the blood & ripped knuckles. H.O.T.
SHAWN! Welcome home! So I see that the way to bring you back is to blog about you, is it? I can dig that.
I like the way you think...I particularly like this sentence of yours: "...been my experience that the stronger, more intelligent, more secure the woman, the more vulnerable, more “female”, she wishes to feel next to her man."
Yes it is. It may be because in the 'outside' world there's a split between being feminine and everything else. For the most part, the stronger the woman is, the less 'feminine' she is perceived to be...and so...most certainly in comes your statement that "On a deeper level, this touches on all those fascinating and controversial issues of submission and domination between the sexes. At least when it comes to the bedroom."
I am going to hazard a guess that the answer to that is a definite: Yes. (But I'll confirm once am a married woman.)
Because...if we're not allowed to tap into this 'femininity' (for lack of a better word) outside, then we'll do & expect it in private. For me, the worst thing a man can do is make me feel susceptible to something...anything... I have to always know that I'm completely encased in whatever protective shield he's got. Always. And without a moment of hesitation on my part.
And this: "We are not special snowflakes. We are hot-blooded beings of instinct-grounded intellect and intense passions."
lol. Yes we are...and if its any consolation re Oprah, I cringe at the man who calls it 'salmon' and not 'pink', the one who takes more time in front of the mirror than I, & he who uses any sort of face cream (I wash my face with soap & water and slap on some Vaseline once in a blue moon). And if he does use face cream, he needs to bury that shit asap (unless it's for acne, of course...who am I to get in the way of healthy & clean skin?). I hate that this generation is all BE A METROSEXUAL! GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR FEMININE SIDE!
NO! DON'T! DON'T SHOW ME YOUR FEMININE SIDE. HIDE IT. Don't even acknowledge it. Especially not in public (cry when I die, ok. But keep that in private too, sweetheart...not in front of the kids...).
Have I flown off topic? I'm just so sick of it all...the world's full of boys but there's no men to be found.
mmmmmwah,
m
Ok. First off Maha, that was an excellent post - frank, honest and you stayed on topic when there were a few roads od deviation you could have taken. So kudos.
I used to think of myself as an alpha male for a while...but it was mostly because I do have an underlying layer of anger that can pop out if someone really pushes me and before I 'grew up' it did pop out a few times leading me to believe that I was the raging, blood spitting type. (that walk out of the hospital with a bandaged head and blood on your shirt can be a powerful image for a 14 year old, let me tell you. I AM ALI!!) ....
then I got some money and made a diverse bunch of friends, so I started feeling a bit of a metrosexual... goign to gay clubs if my friends wanted to go.. feeling comfortable in my skin.. having fun.. driving around in fancy cars.. wearing the best clothes.. chic clubs.. the best parties, the usual stuff.. but I found that life to be hollow and devoid of fun other than the discussions over what club we must visit next..
AND I hate stereotypes and never did resort to pedicures or manicures and don't think I live the metro lifstyle all the time.. so now, I am just a guy. Not in a group, not happy to be typecast and just looking forward to a nice girl, whenever she comes along.. whoever she is and however she is.
I feel people are typecast too easily. Because no one holds a mold forever. People change, their experiences mould them. An alpha male changes pretty fast when his hyped up punch knocks somebody into a week long coma- life happens and that alpha male is no longer that protective person anymore.. he's a guy that overreacts. You know? ... I'm not trying to preach.. all I'm saying is that your experiences affect you - what someone is today, is definitely not what they will be 40 years from now. That just happens in some movies and with a few real life exceptions.
This comment box really shud have a limit cuz I do have the tendency to go on and on and on... :)
Its also fuunny how the word metrosexual has a different meanign to everyone. Get int ouch with your feminine side. I cried in public when I watched Schindler's List and Life is Beautiful. I did, in public. But there wasn't a dry eye in the whole class. Everyone in our grade ten history class conveniently forgot that crying day for the rest of our highschool years as soon as we wiped our eyes and walked out of the school. Haven't cried in public since.
ps: I didn't even read your whole comment. I have an essay to finish. Stop helping me procrastinate Maha!!
maha, you've taken the "prefer a protector" a step too far for me. (but you DID say you were just speaking for yourself!)
Yeah, I would want a guy who can protect me from danger if need be or who can help me move the couch when we decide to re-arrange the place. but I don't mind if he takes care of himself, and I certainly don't mind if he cries now and then, like at a particularly sad movie.
In fact i KNOW a guy who does get his nails manicured (polish-free of course) but who I bet wouldn't ever let something dangerous happen to me if I were out with him. In fact, all kinds of ladies are after him and he wonders why; I tell him it's because he's a safe dangerous guy. But that's a whole 'nother story and man-woman discussion.. maybe the next blog post? ;-)
Altho not related directly to this post and ensuing conversation ... I thought that some of you might find this link interesting.. that I came across just a hlaf hour after reading this post is also quite interesting.. and no, I haven't finished that essay yet.
What do Women Want -- http://www-psych.nmsu.edu/~vic/faceprints/
Just got back from sushi. Mmmmm. Wow Uzi I see you got to workin’ on this thing! You last…’cus I’ve got so much to say…
Michelle -- Am a futbol fan…perhaps I should start watching rugby?
Anjum -- Allow me this footnote to my original entry: On a normal day, I like my man clean :)
We have a request for a blog about the “safe dangerous” guy, eh? Is there such a thing? Sort of, I guess…and with layers too:
- Dangerous when not around you >> safe when with you.
- You can be dangerous with him >> but know there’s safety to it.
- You do dangerous things together >> but you know he’s always right there behind you for safety.
But…I still don’t like a crier. I’m terrible, I know. There’s only certain moments when a man – in my books – should cry. And by cry, I don’t mean a tear rolling down his face, but rather I mean a full out blubber with sobbing and loss of breath. And at no point should that blubber happen in public.
I know I’m oppressing men on some level. But tough. I can’t help it. It’s just such a gigantic turn off for me. Probably because I’m such a wimp…I cry all the time in movies, during commercials, listening to someone speak…you name it, I’ve got a tear for it. Last thing I want to do is share my tissue with the man next to me.
I remember when I went to see Titanic (shut up! All of you!), at the end of it, I was crying. Quietly. And…softly. Until I heard wailing. Actual all-out full-on wailing (the kind you hear at unruly funerals). When I turned to offer her a tissue, I found that it was a man. I choked on my tears and had to stop myself from laughing out loud or slapping him across the face and telling him to man-up.
Cruel I am, your blog mum... ;)
Shawn -- A footnote to my original response to you re the intimacy portion of the discussion: For the record, I feel an obligation to state that…so long as that anger and visciousness is not turned toward me…
(I just didn’t want anyone misunderstanding the issue here and thinking am espousing violence against women…there’s a lot of weirdos on-line. I know I’m one of many…)
Uzi -- (1) Thanks for the link (I love things like this). I chose face D >> which, I guess, isn’t surprising since it is ”…the average male face morphed 20% and 50% of the distance toward a very masculine male face. The "masculinized" face D is close to that found to be attractive by U.S. experimenters.”
(2) I love Ali. Boxing is one of two sports I watch.
(3) Interesting that you think it’s about maturity…but I guess in many ways it is. Don’t get me wrong >> it’s not that I want my man to beat up the check out guy because he can’t get the register to work. It’s about being around the potential of it, more than anything.
And definitely, with maturity comes the means to control that part of yourself so that you’re not randomly beating people up. I was talking to an old friend of mine recently >> we were good friends in university (4th year especially) and he apologized to me for constantly brawling. He said it was something he talked to other men about and they all agreed…it’s some sort of a phase or something.
That sort of thing isn’t what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the ability to use it when it’s necessary.
And as for the mould changing >> I agree with that too. But, the essence of the mould should remain the same. And since I wasn’t advocating the Crazy Psycopath Without Principle mould, and instead hurrahing the Protector With Potential & Principle mould…I would kind of hope that remains. Obviously, with age comes a weakness in body, but that essence should remain, no?
If you had to throw down tomorrow…you would, right? On principle and if necessary?
(4) You cried in public in grade 10? You’re a pansy. ;)
(5) How’s that essay going?
mmmmmwah,
m
If I had to throw down tomorrow.. would I?
hmm...
ok here's a story. In grade 5, out two sections of class played a soccer game. WE won. I mean Class 5B won, 5a didn't think so and argued the case. A melee ensued the argument. Then someone threw a punch. Uzi's brain quickly scanned the events to see if there was a principle involved... there was.. the principle that Uzi's team had won..so, Uzi punched someone. Before long stones were flying.. rocks actually.
In the end, I (Uzi) got taken off the field with my t-shirt wrapped around my head.. blood spewing from a head wound courtesy of a rock. Nine stitches.. bloody shirt.. and smashed in lips. (I AM ALI!!!). Anyway, I still the shirt. It was never washed, its crinkly now.. caked with blood.. and its has 34 signatures on it - signatures of my classmates from 5B - the class that won the soccer game on that fateful day. So, will I throw down if I had to? Yeah, I think so.
hold on.. did you just call me a pansy?
haha - i don't think anyone can call you a pansy after hearing that story from FIFTH GRADE. jeez dude, remind me to have you with me if i ever get into an alley fight.
and maha, allow me to add a footnote to my comment ;-) when i said "I certainly don't mind if he cries now and then" I did NOT mean the all-out wailing and blubbering you were talking about :-) I meant the tear or two rolling down his cheek. I don't mind THAT. ;-) So basically I think you and I are on the same page..
Oh and by "safe dangerous" guy, I meant a guy who is "dangerous" enough to fit the bad-boy image, but safe and caring enough to not really be a bad boy (to his girl). But then, I am thinking of a specific couple guys in making that definition. Your's are definitiions I hadn't even thought of :-)
hey i just remembered something! this is kind of off-topic but i'm sure you'll appreciate it.
i've always maintained that i am hardcore because in 7th grade i threw down with this kid because he kept making racial comments about my parents (they own a 7-11, they own a gas station, blah blah). I just meant to push him, but he fell down. like, right in the middle of the hallway.
Turned out he just liked me.
oh well.
;-)
Mornin' >> Uzi, that's some story for a 10 year old. And you still have the shirt? Wow. Eww? heh.
It's nice to know that both you and Anjum can bring it were the opportunity to present itself!
I have one 'war' story >> it too was in grade school. Her name was Elana Trainoff (I'll never forget her name). I was in class and "the girls" were chatting and I zoned out. When I zoned back in, I heard only the end of the conversation about someone "not telling the truth" and so I said "maybe she lied?" Little did I know we were talking about the teacher.
So Elana cruelly told the teacher I called her a liar. In front of the whole class. And I cried. Because I thought that was a mean thing for her to do. And in the hallway, she taunted me and she laughed some more. So I punched her in the face. I was 7 and the punch was more like a weird slap that started about 12 feet away and somehow landed on her head. But she cried and that made me feel better.
But then we both got sent to the principal's office and we both cried.
Haven't touched anyone since.
mmmmmwah,
m
All this reminds me of something I once heard about men (well, actually about the male animals)
The primitive brain (hence, men...he he...I'm gonna pay for that) asks only one 'either/or' question when faced with another living being.
"Fuck it or kill it."
...the rest is gravy.
Lisa! (can I use it?).
"fuck it or kill it".
hm.
Sweeping generalizations can be rather interesting, can't they?
Listen >> I have a footnote to the entire entry. It's that: although I want a fearless man, I know that everyone gets scared. Even the man whose going to father my children. Even Tyler Durden. And Maximus.
The difference is that the man who'll be seated at the head of my table (so many naughty jokes) faces whatever fears he has head-on. He dives in. Period.
I feel like I've been all over the place with this blog entry.
Oh! I remember what else I wanted to say >> I like tortured men with dark dark corners in their mind. Ones they won't let me see all too easily...
Did anyone ask?
mmmmmwah,
maha
Hey Maha,
very cool post, well a lot of your posts are fun.
I got a question for you, well maybe something for all women in general. I find, in my experience, that most women refer to fictional characters, movies and books, when describing their dream boys, why is that?
It is rarely that names out of reality are referred to when talking about their tall, dark and handsome. Is it the fantasy factor again? Or is it more the packages on TV and the movies are sexier than reality?
Salam
sami
Sami! HIIIIIIIIII.
Responses to your questions can be found here.
salamat,
meesho
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