Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Men and *That* Woman

So I've received some interesting emails from both men and women since posting the blurb that: "(Did you know that men are the ones who fall in love at first sight? It's not actually women, but rather men who will tell you that from the very first moment they saw her, spoke to her, watched her walk up a set of steps, handed her a coffee over the counter, etc ad infinitum, they know that she's the one they want to marry. It's men, not women, who are the eternal romantics (this, not to be confused with a woman's inclination to romance in the form of flowers and candles.))" (This info I picked up at least a year ago in a men's magazine but can't remember which. Apologies.)

People want an explanation and so I am going to pretend I know what I'm talking about. Bare with me as I write in generalizations and from my own experience and observation, please.

(1) A man who needs to be convinced that the woman he's with is the woman he should stay with is a man who will either: (a) Eventually leave that woman; or, (b) Marry that woman and never feel completely fulfilled.

(2) I have yet to hear a man declare: "I'm ready for commitment" while being single. (Lest they are relatively religious and are actively seeking the covenant of marriage.) Whereas almost every single woman I know has said at one point or another: "I am ready for a family / commitment / marriage / children".

I do believe - and this is my opinion - that a man is only ever ready for commitment the moment he meets the woman he wants to commit to. And so when that woman comes into his life, she does - usually unknowingly - change things about his life (& ain't no man changin' if he don't want to - otherwise, he's not much of a man...at least not in my books). She becomes the catalyst for everything else and so it would seem relatively normal and logical that that individual is romanticised.

A lot of women are rooted in romanticizing the situation, rather than the individual. Marriage, commitment, children, family. They sound good to most, and so it is the situation that drives the desire in this case. We tend to romanticise the situation whereas men tend to romanticise the individual. Perhaps this is why a woman's inclination is toward the visual romantic (such as candles) whereas the man's focus is on the woman (read: sex) and his connection to her. (Please understand I'm not here discussing a random booty call, but rather the very real connection yearned for when two people come together; in men it's the driver. And yes it is also a driver for women, perhaps even a stronger driver for women; we just deal with it differently. Again, it doesn't matter if we're built that way or if we're conditioned to believe we are that way. The point is, it is a reality, so perhaps to clarify, I will say that sex is a part of the human condition. It is a part of all drivers. There. Happy?)

I'm sure that someone out there can tie the above to the way men are raised / born. Aggression and risk taking are drivers for them; when they see something they want, they go after it and think about the consequences later. Same could be said when they set their sites on a woman they want for life, from the moment they see her.

Q: Why would an Alpha ever let the 'perfect' woman get away?
A: He's a Beta.

Or...all of the above could be pure bullshit. You decide.

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8 Comments:

Anonymous Steve said...

I'm gonna agree with this. Before I met my wife, I couldn't give a second chance to any woman who was interested in committing. I always said I would be the eternal bachelor until I met my wife.

She wasn't "the kind of woman", she was "the woman". She nailed me and she didn't even know she was doing it! I still remember I used to weigh my words before saying anything to her, I wanted to impress her so much. She is also a little older so that may have been a factor, because she intimidated me. The initimidation made me want to be better.

We've been married 7 years and still going strong.

As per your connection through sex for men. Before I met Cindy it was just sex for sex. Being with her, or maybe I should say thinking about being with her was more about something else that I cacn't really express. Sex was the act and everything else.

Great post!

Steve

Wed Jun 18, 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous lily said...

I like this post! I like your answer, Steve!

The bottom line is, men are idiots - they usually sit around and think of the "one that got away" unless they're Alphas and then they don't let her get away.....hopefully she likes them back! Girls don't usually have a "the one that got away". We get ours or we shut up about it.

Men do romanticise more because they're always thinking about where the grass is greener.

I sound dumb. At least I understand me. -lily

Wed Jun 18, 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not sure if I agree or disagree. I do agree that some strong men who see a special woman who did not notice them will fall for her right away in part because they want to prove that they are good enough to make her want them.. they woo her to make her fall in love because that indirectly validates them. However, the jury is out on whether those who jump in with both feet when they see "the woman" actually stick it out.. Those like Steve are likely in the minority.. many will wake up just as soon as she is no longer a challenge and they will run away from the situation at least as fast as they ran into it.. Maybe I am cynical but I once was ready to bet everything on one such man who ended up hurting my best friend in the most painful way.. nothing hurts more than having someone make you feel like a goddess and just as soon as you believe it, turns around and walks away.

Wed Jun 18, 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Steve said...

That's an interesting take, Lily. It sort of makes sense :)

Anonymous I don't know know what to tellyou. I may just be lucky :)
On behalf of asshole men, sorry about your best friend.

Steve

Thu Jun 19, 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Thomas said...

I will have to think about this and get back to you.

I have a "girl that got away" so does that make me a Beta or just a romantic and stupid Alpha? ;)

Thomas

Thu Jun 19, 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

steve dude older women are fucking hot.
not older like when we're 30 and they're 50, but like when we're 20 and 30 and they're older but 20 or 30s also. fucking hot!

Thu Jun 19, 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous michelle said...

couple things to keep in mind though is that even the Important sex (ie, Not the Bootycall) is still driven by the same basic urge as the Unimportant sex (ie, That Which Entirety of MTV's Disease-Riddled Audience Base Seems to Enjoy): desire and our neurons. it feels good, and we like to reward ourselves with good feelings.

And yet as you mention, we wimmins just deal with it differently. Are we still desiring? Of-fucking-course. Why do we have such a better handle on it?

That's our allure, silly.

I think the important thing which has been mentioned so many places is that what makes you trust- and otherwise-worthy as a man is that you do what's right, not what you want to do. It's easy to be a selfish prick. (which maybe the point of this rambling is the person that we let matter is the one who makes us realize some bullshit about there being more to life -- quick someone get me the chorus to a country song!)

Similarly with the ladies: just because you can hurt him doesn't mean you should. I think when you realize that and learn to take the high road so you can shove it in his face later, good things happen. :P

(And I still can't figure out if there is any credence to the whole "want until have, then lose interest because the thrill of the hunt is gone" aspect. It seems to make sense in terms of where we've come from, no?)

Fri Jun 20, 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Thomas said...

It's taken me a while to get back to this. I appreciate Michelle's comment that part of a woman's allure is her handle on sex. I agree 100%.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, Maha, and I am guilty of Michelle's 'want until have, then lose interest because the thrill of the hunt is gone' when younger. There is a woman who got away and she will always be the ideal woman for me that I compare everyone else to. I don't know why that is, perhaps because sometimes it's easier to think about what could have been rather than the current mess we are usually in?

As an 'adult', I like to think that I am smarter. A woman worth having and who will have you is a woman you should never ever ever walk away from. You will regret it with a great edal of force.

Interesting & thought provoking, as always.

Thomas

Mon Jul 07, 10:33:00 AM  

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